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		<title>Reinventing the Franchise: Will Joker: Folie à Deux&#8217;s Musical Twist Succeed?</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of your feelings on Joker, turning the sequel partly into a musical is certainly different. For this article, we...</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Regardless of your feelings on <em><a href="https://bigpicturefilmclub.com/review-joker/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Joker</a></em>, turning the sequel partly into a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker:_Folie_%C3%A0_Deux" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">musical</a> is certainly different.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For this article, we will look back over other sequel examples that have changed genre from the first. We will analyse whether <em>Joker: Folie à Deux</em> can succeed and look at other franchises that could benefit from taking a different track.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Changing Beats</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Film franchises regularly shift focus over time. By King Kong&#8217;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Kong_(franchise)#Filmography" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">third feature</a> appearance, the series had morphed from a fantasy horror adventure to sci-fi-inflected action. <em>Aliens</em> famously changed its series from horror to more of an action focus. Many serious series have also become more comedic and vice versa (the <em>Evil Dead</em> trilogy and the recent <em>Ghostbusters</em> films).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">These genre shifts happen for many reasons (creative and financial) but do these changes land well at the box office? After all, it can be alienating for fans to see a movie series built on one genre&#8217;s principles suddenly shift to another. While also seeming confusing for general audiences.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Generally, it&#8217;s impossible to say. Sometimes a genre shift can go down well if the prior film was already successful (<a href="https://the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Alien#tab=summary" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alien and Aliens</a>) or if it shakes up a fairly predictable franchise (<a href="https://the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Ghostbusters#tab=summary" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ghostbusters</a>). However, even films with solid fanbases can see a genre change undercut their success financially (<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return_to_Oz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Return To Oz</a></em>) or in terms of reception (<em><a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/franchise/halloween" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Halloween 3</a></em>). So there&#8217;s no guarantee that a genre change would automatically yield failure or success for a sequel.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">A Different Devil</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">But regardless of financial success will this change suit Joker&#8217;s dark world? Well from a talent perspective, it could certainly work. Both Lady Gaga and Joaquin Phoenix have experience with singing and dramatic roles (<em>A Star Is Born </em>and <em><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/17/joaquin.phoenix/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Walk The Line</a></em>). Director Todd Phillips and cinematographer Lawrence Sher also have experience making films based on music. Phillips directed Phish&#8217;s concert movie <em><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0168515/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bittersweet Motel</a></em> and Sher shot a <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11217692/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dua Lipa</a> music video. So the talent is there to make the film work.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Additionally, the series change can work tonally. One of the first film&#8217;s highlights was the stair dance sequence, which shows that music and theatricality are nothing alien to this Joker. Joker also trades on us not knowing whether something is real or in Arthur Fleck’s head, making for a perfect excuse to make the film a musical.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This doesn’t mean it will definitely be a success. Musicals are <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVIbtAZcSnk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">struggling</a> to draw box office numbers, genre changes are unsure things in franchises and the conceit could not work from a story perspective. This merely means a genre change isn&#8217;t necessarily a bad idea.</p>



<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Change The Record</h2>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Lastly, for fun, here are three film franchises that could benefit from a genre change.&nbsp;</p>



<h4 class="wp-block-heading">Batman (Main Series)</h4>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For decades, it feels like DC has been afraid to let Batman have some fun in his main cinematic releases (only seeming to lighten up in spinoffs). With every new adaptation upping the Bat-misery a comedic Batman film would be very welcome now. All they would need to do is have Batman and a version of Robin fight a villain without the fate of Gotham being at stake and have a laugh with the universe.</p>


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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Knives Out</h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The <em>Knives Out</em> series has successfully updated the murder mystery formula for modern audiences but unlike other franchises it hasn&#8217;t gone outside its genre wheelhouse (like <em>A Haunting in Venice</em>). Writer/director Rian Johnson has often upended expectations, and with the series having fantastic casts and social commentary the films could easily switch to another sub-genre while keeping it based in modern times so long as it has something to say. Imagine Benoit Blanc investigating a musician&#8217;s death leading into a musical story about how the music industry exploits radical images for profit. Who wouldn&#8217;t watch that?</p>


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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Halloween</h3>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">After so many lacklustre sequels and requels that all boil down to Michael Myers stabbing people Halloween should return to its long-abandoned <a href="https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/halloween-iii-season-of-the-witch-deserves-another-look/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">anthology</a> idea. Just give the brand name to an up-and-coming creative team and let them do something different in any horror sub-genre they want.</p>


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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Do you think Joker Folie à Deux&#8217;s genre change will work well or hinder its success? And what film franchises do you think would benefit from a genre change?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Also Read: </strong><a href="https://bigpicturefilmclub.com/perfect-batman-actor-director-duos-behind-the-films/">The Perfect Batman: A Look At The Actor &amp; Director Duos Behind The Films</a></p>
<p>The post <a href="https://bigpicturefilmclub.com/reinventing-franchise-joker-folie-a-deuxs-musical/">Reinventing the Franchise: Will Joker: Folie à Deux&#8217;s Musical Twist Succeed?</a> appeared first on <a href="https://bigpicturefilmclub.com">Big Picture Film Club</a>.</p>
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