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		<title>The Language of Subtitles: How Translation Shapes Our Understanding of Foreign Films</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 20:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>The modern classic Arrival has a pivotal early scene on the importance of nuance in translation. When a linguist is...</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The modern classic <em>Arrival </em>has a pivotal early scene on the importance of nuance in translation. When a linguist is asked the Sanskrit word for &#8220;war&#8221; and what it means the linguist says the word and says it means argument, Amy Adams&#8217; character corrects this saying it means &#8220;a desire for more cows&#8221;. It would be easy to see how misunderstanding the word could lead to a negative outcome when one side just wanted to buy some cows. The subtitling of films not in English may not have the same potential pitfall, but surely it is important to accurately and carefully translate them.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It is worth pointing out that an audience watching a film in their native language, made by people of the same culture in the same time period can still lead to different interpretations so adding the complexity of another language only makes it more complicated. </p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In terms of distributing films for audiences that do not speak the language the film is made in, there have been two options &#8211; dubbing or subtitles. Dubbing is the process of having actors who do speak the language of the audience redo the dialogue, for a long time dubbing was a source of much derision due to the unnatural feeling it gave movies and poor acting but in recent years it has become far more accomplished. Subtitling was long seen as the more authentic experience but still had its limitations. Any film, whether it be <em>Citizen Kane</em> or <em>The Fast &amp; The Furious</em>, has a complexity to language that can be lost when translated. Even just thinking about some of the pithy one-liners from films &#8211;<em> Dr. Strangelove</em> &#8211; &#8220;Gentlemen, you can&#8217;t fight in here, this is the war room!&#8221; <em>Silence of the Lambs </em>&#8211; &#8220;I&#8217;m having an old friend for dinner&#8221; or even “You’ve got to ask yourself one question: ‘Do I feel lucky?’ Well, do ya punk?” from <em>Dirty Harry</em>. How easily the meaning could be lost if any of these were translated into Mandarin or Portuguese or Arabic? Translating is not just about specific words, there is meaning in context.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Then there are the problems of expressions and turns of phrase, for example, by the skin of one&#8217;s teeth, is not an expression that makes any sense when taken to another culture. The Chinese expression &#8220;Draw snake, add feet&#8221; meaning to overdo something does not make any sense. You could probably find examples of other expressions that would work in other languages, or just have the subtitles not use the expression and just say it&#8230;but then is something being lost?</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It is well known that comedy doesn&#8217;t travel well, with it often not working when it leaves the place it was created. Often stereotypes about countries not having a sense of humour are that they simply have a different sense of humour. If we look at one of the great comedies of all time, <em>Shaun of the Dead</em>, and even just focus on the scene of throwing records at zombies. There are a number of different jokes going on &#8211; the silliness of fighting zombies with records, Shaun&#8217;s preciousness of his collection even in a life and death situation, the various jokes about different albums &#8211; such as Shaun insisting he likes The Stone Roses&#8217; album Second Coming. How would this be translated for other audiences?</p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Famously when German television asked to broadcast Monty Python&#8217;s Flying Circus in Germany the Pythons decided instead of letting them dub it or subtitle it they would make specials in German, feeling that would convey the humour more. Admittedly, none of the Pythons spoke German so they learned it phonetically. But even if they didn&#8217;t learn the language they did make changes for the culture, settings change, clothes are different, it is trying to connect with the German audience. </p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Looking at some of the most successful non-English language films in the UK and America we have films like <em>Parasite</em>,<em> Amelie</em>, <em>Pan&#8217;s Labrinyth</em>. The first of those is a complex story of class and cultural tensions in South Korea, the second a film saturated in French cinematic style and taste, and the final a fantasy coming-of-age story amidst the aftermath of a fascist victory in the Spanish Civil War. There is a lot of room for misunderstanding and keeping the meaning and style of the original is an art form in itself.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Also Read:</strong> <a href="https://bigpicturefilmclub.com/parasite-foreign-language-films-uk/">Parasite and Foreign Language Films in the UK</a></p>



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		<title>Never Less Than Great: The Films of Edgar Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Norton]]></dc:creator>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Edgar Wright is a phenomenal director. He can do action, he can do comedy, he can do tragedy &#8211; and he can do it all in one scene. Let&#8217;s start with the greatest thematic film trilogy of all time&#8230;</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">#1 Strawberry &#8211; Shaun of the Dead</h3>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In the early 2000s, I remember reading that Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright, co-writer and director of the brilliant sitcom <strong>Spaced</strong>, were working on a film and I thought &#8220;that&#8217;ll probably be good&#8221;. I was wrong &#8211; it was a great film. I would go so far as to call it a perfect film, there is not a single part of it I would change. A film that was billed as a zombie spoof became far more than that (although even as a zombie spoof it works fantastically well), one of the best comedies ever made with more emotional depth than Oscar-winning dramas. Simon Pegg made a fantastic everyman hero, Bill Nighy excelled as unloved stepdad Philip and even Dylan Moran stretched himself to play a character who wasn&#8217;t a version of Dylan Moran. You can see the film as a zombie story, a tale of Shaun getting his girlfriend back or a film about Shaun sorting his life out. Jokes range from relationships to zombie horror with tangents into orangutan impressions. This a film that completely obliterated my expectations and remains one of my all-time favourite films.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">#2 Chocolate &#8211; Hot Fuzz</h3>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">As with <strong>Shaun of the Dead</strong> what could have been a cheap parody became one of the best, if not the best, example of the genre. In a sensational example of misdirection, we are lead to believe a rampage of murder and destruction is all about supermarkets going out of business but is actually a terrifying tale of people trying to make the perfect village. The film easily going from cop action film to claustrophobic British horror (everyone who has visited a small town has heard the &#8220;he&#8217;s not even from around here&#8221; statement). Even more so than with <strong>Shaun of the Dead</strong> the cast is packed with amazing talent; there are two Oscar winners in the cast (Olivia Colman and Jim Broadbent), small roles are filled by people like Alice Lowe and Rory McCann. I firmly believe that Simon Pegg as Nicholas Angel is the best portrayal of any police officer ever seen on film or television &#8211; hugely effective yet understands the importance of rules for the police, understands the letter and the spirit of the law, works with the community and doesn&#8217;t like guns. </p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">#3 Mint  &#8211; The World&#8217;s End</h3>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The final part of the so-called Cornetto Trilogy that is not really a trilogy. There are themes than run through them all like friendship and growing up, but there is no common story. <strong>The World&#8217;s End</strong> changes things up a little with Simon Pegg playing the irresponsible character and Nick Frost being the more stable person. Pegg&#8217;s Gary King is still stuck in his teenage mindset, immature, irresponsible and at times downright idiotic but convinced of his own brilliance. He corrals his old friends to finish a pub crawl they started in their youth only to discover that the town has been taken over by robot duplicates. <strong>The World&#8217;s End</strong> deals with genuinely weighty and emotional topics- addiction, suicide and feelings of failure whilst still being very funny and still a first-rate sci-fi film.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Scott Pilgrim Vs The World</h3>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I saw this not knowing the source material at all. I loved Wright&#8217;s films and I knew Michael Cera from <strong>Arrested Development</strong> but I had decided I liked it even before any actors appeared. The Universal logo was rendered in 1980s 8bit graphics and I was already on board. What followed was nearly two hours of nerdy awesomeness as Scott battles his prospective girlfriend&#8217;s seven evil exes. Scott himself is not a terribly likeable character but grows on you through the film, especially as exes are uniformly bad people ending with supremely smug Gideon Graves. Another fantastic castlist including Superman, Captain America, Johnny Storm and Huntress. Chris Evans stealing the show with insufferable skateboarder/blockbuster movie star Lucas Lee who has his stunt doubles join the fight. Again Wright throws a curve ball when what saves the day is not Scott&#8217;s love for Ramona but in finding self-respect and dealing with the bad things he&#8217;s done.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Baby Driver</h3>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Edgar Wright has perhaps made the best zombie, the best police action film and best graphic-novel-adaptation-set-in-Toronto film and he has probably made the best car chase film. Or at least the best chase; which you can watch in entirety as well as the charming several minutes of Ansel Elgort singing along and sort-of-dancing to the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion on youtube. This scene was based on a music video Edgar Wright directed a long time ago, with Noel Fielding playing the driver and presumably it was his previous obligation to the <strong>Great British Bake Off</strong> that stopped him reprising the role. There is a slightly loose plot and villain of the film switches between Kevin Spacey, Jamie Fox and Jon Hamm but the film is still stunning. There are amazing car chase scenes but there is also the music. Music has always been important in Wright&#8217;s films but some people have said this film should be viewed as a musical. Using the device of Baby constantly listening to music to drown out his tinnitus there is seemingly music always playing. Many people have commented that the film often feels like a musical, not just because of the music but the way scenes are filmed &#8211; colour matching laundrettes and gunshots synchronised to the music.</p>



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<h3 class="wp-block-heading">Never Less Than Great</h3>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">This surely has to be one of the most impressive resumes in film history, beloved cult classics, endlessly quotable, with some of the funniest moments in any film ever. Wright has at least two of all my time favourite shots. Some filmmakers are praised for &#8220;never making a bad film&#8221; whereas Edgar Wright should be celebrated for only ever making great ones.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><em>Also Read: <a href="https://bigpicturefilmclub.com/unique-style-wes-anderson/">The Unique Style of Wes Anderson </a></em></strong></p>



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